The Black Bibs are unquestionably the best value in cycling kit across the industry. I ride daily, year-round, and in all conditions. I get many years of life out of each bib. I just added three to the wardrobe. The short bib is fantastic. The summer jerseys are very comfortable, and the color selection is excellent. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Save your money and buy four times the kit as other big name brands for the same price. You won’t regret it.