I was long wearing bibs from Blackbibs but I found the pad a little thick and, on long rides, they would start to chafe, so I switched to another company (RedWhite) a few years ago, and was happier with the pad but they kept coming unstitched (the maker said it was my saddle). When I saw these I gave them a try and they have a pad as good or better than what I was using and I have never had any issues with BlackBibs coming unstitched. I'm back to BlackBibs!