I've got about 100 miles in these and they're really thin which is great here in Texas. The elastic is nice around the thighs and the straps are comfy. The pad, however, I'm really struggling with. It's thicker and stiffer (twss) than I anticipated and towards the end of my 20 mile rides, the taint ain't feeling too good. I'll keep trying to break them as as they are better than what I had previously.