Bought these to replace a pair of the Adventure Bibs when the pad tore apart. Overall, I like the bibs. The finish is nice but the sizing seems more snug than the Adventure Bibs. The shoulder straps do not seem as long as the Adventure Bibs, even though these also have the long shoulder straps. However, the pad is comfortable for a multi-hour ride and I suspect the Lycra will give a little with some more rides.