I have a drawer full of Black Bibs/knickers going pretty far back in years. When I took these out of the package (size M, I'm 5'8"), I thought they were going to be way too small, but this material stretches and conforms and is amazingly comfortable. Like a second skin. I chose the N3X pad which was great on the first ride. Hoping they expand this line with more colors, a knicker version, and maybe add the hidden back pockets used on the Adventure Bibs. Great place to put your wallet/keys and not have them in a jersey pocket.

My new favorite!

The destination bibs in my experience are not nearly as nice as the ultimate bibs. 

They ride up more, feel flimsy and look like a cheap unitard due to the lack of elastic banding at the bottom of the legs holes. 

The chamois is excellent as before but especially at the increased price I don’t think these stack up well against the ultimate bibs.

Great price and quality

Only two rides but outstanding so far