I have a few high end bibs and and a couple entry level bibs and shorts. These are by far better than an entry level bib I have and is less expensive. I haven’t gone any multi hour long trips with these but I feel like they’d last longer than the other entry level bibs I have. The density of the chamois pad is more like a foam gel, similar to my higher end bibs. I think the biggest difference with the higher end chamois is that the feeling of it disappears when you have them on. You’ll notice you’re wearing the Black Bibs chamois, but you’ll be in comfort.