Have been cycling many years. Safe to say I've logged at least 100K miles

Bought a pair of Knickers and enjoyed them

These bibs came and the fit just wasn't right. Started to be very uncomfortable after 20 miles. Pad bunched, elastic seemed weak. Second ride same thing

Over the years I've ridden hundreds of brands of clothing. When something isn't right I know directly

Sent an email with the hope that I simply got a goofy pair and wanted they would replace it.

Touch of back and forth concluded with we can't replace but we can give you a 25% discount code on a new pair.

So buy a new pair and hope you don't have to throw it in the garbage too?

Have been in charge of clothing orders for the team for years. I understand if Pactimo prints a jersey you better make damn sure it's the size you want. Even if you flub with Pactimo they're still better than a measly 25%.

There's lots of online cycling clothing outlets to choose from, maybe skip this one.

Fits great, nice pad. Greatest value

I used these as my single pair of bibs for about 1.5 seasons, including multiple centuries and a double century. They were heavily used on the road and finally have retired to trainer bibs. Comfort, quality, and longevity is great for the price - I don't see a compelling reason to use other (more expensive) bibs.

I have been a road cyclist for well over 40 years and in all that time I have tried several manufacturers’ bibs, but these are by far the best I have come across for a rider of my size...6'3" and 225lbs. These bibs have a confident feel by staying put while grinding out the miles and the compression helps to keep the fatigue low. I will slowly replace all my kits with Black Bibs for every season!

I’ve tried the black bibs Ultimate and I was not disappointed: great fit, very comfortable for long rides. I’ve recently went for a 70+ mile ride and I didn’t have any issues sitting on my bike for over 4 hours in a row