These are amazing bibs with an extremely comfy pad. I believe in this brand and the only reason I gave the product 4 stars is because I feel that the material could be more compressive and less stretchy. As they are now, they are very comfortable, but when you are hunched over in a more aero position, there is a considerable amount of bunching up at the crotch area that I would love to eliminate. Sizing down would likely be too small as the size I ordered fits perfectly otherwise. I will still buy more of them for training rides where I am less concerned with the bunching.