I think you guys are doing good things. These have most of the pieces of a great bib. The chamois doesn’t come up in front enough (like Velocio, Castelli, Rapha) so they are way more revealing of male anatomy. I’ll wear on early AM rides and trainer but not in a group,

I've been.a big fan of the Black Bibs Adventure bib for a long time now. Comfortable, wears well, and very affordable. I highly recommend. I purchased the "olive band" style recently to go with a couple of shirts I have.

The adventure bibs fit great. I was skeptical of the sizing, but they are comfortable, compared to some of the other bibs purchased on Amazon

Really like the chamois, it’s consistent from bib to bib, the navy cargo has solid pockets, I like these better than the mesh on the black ones. I’m a small at 5’9 165lbs 30 inch true inseam, their chart says medium but I have found small is best for me and the material is plenty stretchy and feels high end

Just bought my second pair. Used them on 4 day trip around the Michigan Thumb. Super comfortable, and super convenient with the included pockets.