Based on several positive YouTube reviews I ordered The Black Bib - Men's L/White Shoulder Straps. After receipt I tried them on and they seemed to fit OK, except for the shoulder straps which were extremely tight. At that point I debated returning them but since the rest of the fit was good decided to keep them. Big mistake, on my next ride the shorts rode up to the point where they resembled bikini shorts rather than cycling shorts, the elastic in the leg ends couldn't hold them in place for 5 minutes of slow speed riding, after an hour they had gone up to half-way up my thigh and, despite frequent adjustments, they kept on riding up. As a caveat, I have a dozen pairs of bib shorts, ranging in cost from $200+ to $25. The only thing good about these "Black Bibs" is the chamois, which is comfortable, but the shoulder straps are almost unbearable and the leg creep is ridiculous. I'm 5'10", 185lbs, and wear size large in every other pair of shorts I've ever worn. I can't recommend these at any price.