I've worn the original black bibs for years, but recently decided it was time for replacements. Figured I'd try out the Ultimate version since my rides have been getting longer and I have some big events looming. 50 miles done the other day in these bibs and I'm convinced they'll be great. No discomfort whatsoever. They do feel better than the $40 bibs -- more substantive, higher quality, superior chamois. I recommend.